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Post by mnvikings on Aug 31, 2005 13:50:50 GMT -5
Who is the greatest baseball player ever?!?! Offense, I'd say the Babe, pitching, I'd say Nolan Ryan.
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Post by Administrator on Aug 31, 2005 13:52:38 GMT -5
Overall no one beats Willie Mays ;D
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Post by dodgerdave on Aug 31, 2005 14:44:11 GMT -5
For pitching I'd go with Cy Young.
For hitting, I'd go with Hank Aaron.
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Post by carson150 on Sept 1, 2005 12:23:35 GMT -5
No way Ryan is the best pitcher of alltime. Most dominate maybe, but not greatest. For pitcher I'd go with Walter Johnson and hitter you can't go against The Babe.
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Post by mikethemetsfan on Sept 1, 2005 15:27:07 GMT -5
y not the babe for pitching too lol but i would say gibson as the best ever
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Post by jcs88 on Sept 3, 2005 15:51:36 GMT -5
Babe Ruth was easily the best offensive ballplayer of all-time, and I would go with Walter Johnson as the greatest pitcher ever. But if you don't like to go that far back, you could go with more recent times, in which case I'd take Musial for hitting and Gibson for pitching.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 5, 2005 15:17:17 GMT -5
Pitching this, batting that, The best overall player is Willie Mays! The epitomy of an offensive and defensive SUPERSTAR!!!!!!!
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Post by mnvikings on Sept 5, 2005 16:11:40 GMT -5
Say hey? Are you forgetting all the other greats? Walter Johnson,Nolan Ryan, Mickey Mantle, Lou Gerhig, Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds or Randy Johnson? I'd say at least 3 of those are better than Mays.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 5, 2005 16:17:34 GMT -5
Let me show you why he was better.
Walter Johnson: Great pitcher, but, he's not even the best pitcher ever
Mickey Mantle: Struck out a ton! So did Willie, but, Willie was 20X the defender mick was
Lou Gerhig: Uh...nothing bad about him, Willie's just better
Babe Ruth: Again, not the defender Willie was
Barry Bonds: Steroids...need I say more?
Randy Johnson: Are you fucking kidding me?
Nolan Ryan: Close, very close. Willie had defense, speed, hit for average and tons of power. Edge: Willie
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Post by carson150 on Sept 5, 2005 18:51:58 GMT -5
Nolan Ryan is overrated. He shouldn't even be up for discussion. As for Mays Vs. Ruth:
Ruth:
2503 Games
8399 At Bats
.342 AVG
.469 OBP
.690 SLG
506 Doubles
136 Triples
714 Homeruns= a Homerun every 11.76 at bats
OPS+ 207
123 SB= ?%
Mays:
2992
10881
.302 AVG
.386 OBP
.557 SLG
523 doubles
140 Triples
660 Homeruns= a homerun every 16.49 at bats
OPS+ 156
323 SB= 79%
Mays had the better glove but Ruth was a better pitcher than Mays was fielder. Babe Ruth is hands down the better player.
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Post by mnvikings on Sept 5, 2005 20:45:41 GMT -5
Carson, exalt what you say! Finally, some1 who knows sports! How dare you say the 'Say Hey Kid' is better than the Bambino. (P.S. ruth's defense wasn't outta the ordinary, but his offense makes up for that)
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Post by Administrator on Sept 5, 2005 21:18:01 GMT -5
And Mays offense doesn't? To say the Ryan express is overrated is bullshit carson (I mean that in the best way  |
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Post by carson150 on Sept 5, 2005 21:38:21 GMT -5
And Mays offense doesn't? To say the Ryan express is overrated is bullshit carson (I mean that in the best way The fact he's not even top 100 in ERA + or WHIP? |
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Post by jcs88 on Sept 6, 2005 11:42:03 GMT -5
Ryan was an overrated pitcher, period. He was purely a power pitcher, and he didn't have nearly the command that other greats had. Then considering what carson just said, Ryan just can't be discussed. Although he deserved the Hall of Fame, in no way can he be considered among the best pitchers of all-time.
And I'd say that the Babe, Gehrig, and Ted Williams were all better than Mays. But I take back Musial, because Mays was a tad better.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 6, 2005 11:43:17 GMT -5
Nolan Ryan had the nastiest fucking change baseball has ever seen
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Post by indy on Sept 6, 2005 13:26:08 GMT -5
It's impossible to compare players from all the different era's. And there's been about 2 or three distict era's in baseball's history. All had different styles of play, and different factors from the equipment to the height of the mound to the sizes of the ballparks to the level of compeition. It's too hard to say deffinitively who was the best off ALL time. So forgive me if I can't say for sure who's the best. It's just too hard to tell fr sure.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 6, 2005 13:32:36 GMT -5
Just go ahead and say that you think it's David Justice indy P.S. I think if Justice can catch on with the right team and get a few more steals, then...oh, never mind |
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Post by ixswiftkidxi on Sept 6, 2005 15:49:09 GMT -5
I gotta say, Ruth is the best player ever!
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